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Well, it had to happen sooner or later.  And while I admit I have been lax in watching the nutty one of late, it seems that it is no beyond doubt that she has gone beyond the usual ranting about our Judeo-Christian heritage, the perfidy of the atheist left and how the Muslims will murder us all in our beds, and has erupted into outright conspiratoral lunacy.

Her drift has always been steadily downwards, towards this terminal stage, but perhaps not reading her every utterance has allowed me to see the dividing line between “slightly nutty” and “completely insane” more clearly.

My evidence is her article in the Spectator yesterday, who should probably be ashamed at publishing such tripe, or at least considering changing their name to “The Nick Griffin Survival Report.”  It is also useful, in that it reflects the desperation of the right in the USA and its various overseas supporters, and highlights their underlying conspiratorial view of the world, which for so long has been focused on the doings of Muslims but has, once again, been directed internally.

We may as well start at the conclusion, since it is undoubtedly where Mel started here analysis from.  In her words:

a Marxisant radical who all his life has been mentored by, sat at the feet of, worshipped with, befriended, endorsed the philosophy of, funded and been in turn funded, politically promoted and supported by a nexus comprising black power anti-white racists, Jew-haters, revolutionary Marxists, unrepentant former terrorists and Chicago mobsters, is on the verge of becoming President of the United States. And apparently it’s considered impolite to say so.

Yup.  Its all there.  Pretty much every major conspiracy theory that has been spread about Obama since the start of the election, barring the most famous one, and the recent insanity.

Needless to say, this is unmitigated garbage, on a par with John McCain being a Communist sleeper agent after brainwashing at the hands of the North Vietnamese.  But it is prolific throughout the right wing blogosphere in the US, and often more than hinted at in national publications there.  Overe here, on the other hand, these sort of theories only have currency among the BNP and other assorted fringe lunatics.  Most of our Tories seem fairly content with an Obama victory, despite their short lived enthusiasm over Palin being added to the McCain ticket.

I am actually put in mind of many of the smears against Clinton that were made in the early 90s.  Most of these came from the “Patriot” movement, and with a little digging one can still find lists and theories on old BBS’s and Usenet sites.  More disturbingly, many of these theories were altered for a mainstream audience, then repeated by elements of the mass media in the US, especially by talk radio.  Such theories include:

  • The theory that Bill Clinton was involved in CIA drug smuggling in Mena, Arkansas
  • That Bill Clinton was a serial rapist.
  • That a large amount of people connected to Clinton had died in mysterious circumstances (aka the Clinton Death List).
  • That Clinton was working with the United Nations to oversea the implementation of a New World Order, which would be dictatorial and run in the interest of ultra-rich elites
  • That Clinton commanded a private assassination unit to deal with his political enemies

And a variety of much crazier theories involving Satanism, human sacrafice, the Illuminati, mind controlled sex-slaves and reptilian shapeshifting (the last being a personal favourite of mine).

There are curious parallels here.  The theories are not the same of course, but they rely on the same mindset, and the same motivations.  Sorting the useful idiots from the cynical propagandists would be a difficult, and possibly useless exercise.

The source for Mad Mel’s theories is the incredibly tiresome Stanley Kurtz, who far from being repressed, is a writer for Commentary, the National Review, Policy Review, the Weekly Standard and the Wall Street Journal.  Oh, and he is an adjunct fellow of the Hudson Institute and a Senior Fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.

“Help!  Help!  I’m being repressed!”

Ahem.  Anyway, the main evidence for Kurtz’s allegations is Obama and Ayers both serving on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a group involved in funding schools in Chicago.  Interestingly, Kurtz neglects to mention many other members of the board and if they are also crazed terroristic socialists.  Presumably because if one were to look at their political affiliations, they would find out that they were large contributors to the Republican Party, not least Walter Annenberg himself, the man who started this.  Annenburg is a huge fanboi of Richard Nixon and Saint Ronald Reagan, which is far more damning than pretty much anything else involved in this pathetic excuse for a conspiracy theory.

Furthermore, the Challenge gave funding to about, oh, half of all the public schools in Chicago.  I would be surprised if some teachers with a radical viewpoint of any sort did not get some funding.  To believe Mad Mel and Kurtz, one would have to either belief that a foundation founded by Walter Annenburg and staffed by Republican donors was objectively pro-Marxist, or that there are a hell of a lot of Black Supremacist teachers in Chicago.  And knowing those two, they could be implying either.

I wont even get into the Mafia bullshit.  Suffice to say, according to Mad Mel, if someone who knows Obama knows some dodgy people, it is a clear connection between the two and it is obvious they support each other implicity and share their worldview (because as we know, black seprartists, Marxists and the Mafia get along like peas in a pod).  Presumably Melanie is unaware of the concept of Six Degrees of Separation, or how many more people a lawyer, University professor and politician may deal with when compared to the average person.

It would seem that in the face of an Obama victory, the most outspoken of President Bush’s supporters are regressing to the paranoid, bien pensant anti-authoritarianism and distrust of Federal power that marked the Clinton years, even those removed or opposed to the culture in which such a movement or style of thought originated (namely depression in the Mid-West, coupled with a religious revival and long Democratic dominance of Congress).  One can expect such antics from a Rush Limbaugh or a Sean Hannity, however it seems very out of place in British political commentary.

Gavin M at Sadly, No! suggests that such thinking is now a general trend among the wingnut crowd.  As he points out in this interesting article about the return to 90s style rhetoric from the US right:

an Obama presidency will yield us a bounty of delicious 180-degree reversals, hanging contradictions, forehead-smacking discontinuities, and flaming self-pwnages from our wingnut pals, as their entire political edifice turns heliotropically to face the warming light of the new Hated Thing.

Glenn Greenwald has also noticed this trend, via a strange article from Malkin’s Hot Air:

The same people who cheered all of that on are now parading around proclaiming that “that America exists precisely because of our desire to rein in government and make it accountable to the people” and “only in a panic, in which Congressional leadership abdicates its role to keep executive power in check, would any American Congress agree to surrender its Constitutional mandate for oversight” and invoking the tyrannical specter of Britain’s King George, who didn’t even possess some of the powers that they insisted on vesting in their own contemporaneous King George.

The spectre of a totalitarian, Obama headed government, filled to the brim with radicals and Mafia men and angry ranting black preachers, is the laughable vision of tomorrow that the wingnut crowd fear the most.  It would almost be sad, if it were not so amusing.

Mad Mel’s comments are worth a read, too.  Anyone who tries to interject a modicum of sense into the discussion is predictably labelled a troll and a moobat.  In fact, the most common disagreement seems not to be with Mel’s lunacy, but the idea that Obama will win.  Cynicor, however, sums it up perfectly:

This frothing, unsupported article, and most of the comments below, bear no relation to the election contest that’s actually happening here in the States right now.

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Over on PD.com, I’ve been keeping a fairly comprehensive list of the smears put out by the most wingnutty of online bloggers and sites – mostly for my own amusement.  Now I thought we had hit Peak Stupidity when it came to Obama being both a Muslim radical and a scary Christian Black Sepratist, but apparently I was wrong.

Not only was Obama apparently a slutty ten year old, off having affairs with his mentor (yes, the language on various sites promoting this does suggest this was his fault and not a case of sexual abuse) but also apparently had an affair with one of his female staffers.

Come on, people.  Communicate! You’re not going to smear someone properly until you can get your message out effectively, by deciding on a smear and sticking with it, through good times and bad.  This is just pathetic.

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Over at The Home of Paranoid Black Helicopter Spotters, johnofgwent has discovered a horrible truth about the recent Policy Exchange report

ITS SECRETLY A COVER FOR THE ISLAMIC TAKEOVER OF BRITAIN!

Of course, long-time Green Arrow readers will ask “what isn’t, according to these lunatics?” And they have a point.

However, are we talking about the Policy Exchange that:

And so on and so forth. I can really see Policy Exchange wanting to shack up with Islamic militants, no, honestly…And in other breaking news, Johann Hari has joined the Nazi Party.

Of course, I can no doubt expect another lovely dose of BNP link-spamming on this blog entry, because riling up the natives gets them restless and angsty. But then again, if they were not engaging in hilariously wrong-headed conspiracy theories, I would not make fun of them so much.

Maybe.

Probably not actually, but I’d least take them somewhat seriously, instead of treating them like the borderline mentally ill, online entertainment system that they truly are.

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Lets see what the erudite and great strategic minds over at the Daily Mail have to say on the terrible conflict that erupted in the secessionist Georgian regions yesterday:

Well if they have Russian passports then they know where to move to. Georgia has every right to evict them out of their sovereign lands.

– Neil, Frankfurt, Germany, 8/8/2008 11:54

I hope Germany throws you the fuck out, you hideous little cretin.

Nato will defend Georgia – in which case Russia stop meddling unless you want a bloody nose. This whole problem is the Kremlin’s making.

– Terence, UK, 8/8/2008 13:42

Yeah, a bigger war will make everything better! Now, we just have to figure out if Russia can overrun Europe before the troops get back from Iraq and Afghanistan…fuck it, Risk was never this difficult.

Why does John think that it is Ossetians desire to be free?!it is Russia who wants to appropriate the land of Georgia.Ossetia and Abkhazia had been georgians too long time ago.And when Russians conquered Ossetia, 80 percent of population were georgians,that is diffference between Kosovo and Ossetia…..Russia has 50 auonomies and if they all bee free like Kosovo there will be no Russia any more.And if we do not know history we do not have right to speak such things!

– maritucka-15, georgia tbilisi, 8/8/2008 14:29

Yeah, Russia started it by making Georgia invade South Ossetia! Those uppity South Ossetians should have abandoned their homes or been killed back in 92, the ingrates.

It wouldn’t have something to do with Russia wishing to get control of the nearby Baku Ceyhan Pipeline, the only one which feeds Caspian Oil to the west, which does not pass thru Russian territory, the one that was blown up by “Kurdish Dissidents” a few days ago ???? Perhaps I am being a little cynical. Anyhow let the games begin and forget the fact that one of the wests major energy arteries is about to be cut.

– alan wilson, London UK, 8/8/2008 14:37

Again, the nefarious hand of Russia forced the Georgian invasion. If only they could use their vast influence to control the Georgian government to give them all that oil…

Russia needs to know that it is insignificant in the face of NATO – it no longer has any real power. The EU & US should secure Georgia and access to its vast oil reserves. Then on to MOSCOW!

– W, UK, 8/8/2008 17:31

I mean, seriously, invading Russia as winter draws closer? What could possibly go wrong?

What a situation to develope! And here everyone was concerned about Taiwan/China.
Will Nato come to the rescue?Will the US/UK prosper from equipment sales/service?
Will the US send troops there also? Could this eacalate to Nuclear war? I wonder what Bush is thinking, while ‘enjoying’ the games! Will the ‘Cabal’ send in their UFO’s?, to fight the Russians? Maybe it will be a fight between USA Cabal UFO Force and Russian UFO Force. How will China respond? These are surely ‘interesting’ times

– James Cesan, Wardsboro,Vermont,USA, 8/8/2008 17:57

But what if China responds with its own UFOs? And the reptilian conspiracy ally with them? Do we even know where the Bavarian Illuminati stands?

Poignant questions indeed.

Normally I would never be caught dead giving thumbs up to the Russians, but Georgia has no right to blaightantly kill Russian peacekeepers AND civilians and then call for help from It’s bigger brothers (the west).

Besides, at the end of the day, Georgia incuring the wrath of Russia is like a rat spittng in the face of the bear.

– Anthony, Erith, England, 8/8/2008 18:37

Thumbs up you Russian dudes! Great job on bombing those Georgian civilians in retaliation.

Good way to try “our” systems against “theirs” without any one important getting hurt. Look forward to the analysis.

War is fun when someone else is playing it.

– Tim Phillips, Tilburg, The Netherlands, 8/8/2008 18:42

REMF. Capische, chickenhawk?

I see that many people are misinformed that Georgians had started this war,Russians said this too.but it is a lie.2 days ago “Ossetians” began the war,our prezident begged them several times to stop it and offered to negotiate, but they refused.and we have our dignity!

– marituca 15, georgia tbilisi, 8/8/2008 19:17

Again, the dastardly hand of the Ossetian/Russian conspiracy, forcing the Georgians to invade and kill them. Is it just me, or does this sound like the sort of excuse a wifebeater would give? “Look what you made me do” and all that.

It was inevitable that this would happen. Russians have always been the same. Unlike China in its political disagreement with Taiwan, Russia always goes for blood. Its the nature of the beast.

– Phil de Buquet, Newport England, 8/8/2008 20:13

Phil understands the Russian mind, from having read Tom Clancy novels.

I never trusted Russia, they still have the same USSR ideals and their presidents have too much power, I hope a ceasefire can be reached soon before Russia tries to claim back all of Georgia which would have the west get involved and restart the cold war

– Connor, Oreogn, USA, 8/8/2008 20:17

So unlike your own dear President, who has limited his power massively and made clear his hatred of war as a part of foreign relations.

Back to the Old Russia, how cynical while the World watches the Olympics they again abuse their power.

Reminds me of NU Labour, “Hide bad news amongst the good”.

Seems thay have killed more civilians than the allies did taking the whole of Iraq.

– John, Creigiau, Cardiff, 8/8/2008 20:29

I totally see the New Labour connection. No, really…

With everyone looking at China right now it is a good day to bury bad news.

Russian democracy in action – Putin style.

– peter, Germany, 8/8/2008 20:49

Because the Georgian President would never order crack down on peaceful protests, or spend 70% of his GDP on his military, oh no….

“150 tanks and other armoured vehicles” is not much of an “invasion”, especially not by Russian standards. That’s about the bare minimum I would need to take control of some fourth world banana republic or to mount a raid into Zimbabwe for 72 hours.
Ask the Czechs and the Hungarians (or even the Afghans!) what a Russian “invasion” looks like….

– Robert, Worcester UK, 8/8/2008 20:51

Gosh yes, when I was playing Civ III the other day and I tried to invade with 150 tanks, I just got slaughtered….

Sorry, how is it that Georgia started this fighting? Are they the ones who amassed an army at the border and invaded Russia? Methinks it was the other way around. Russia planned this long ago as part of a well thought out military strategy. Everyone has the right to defend the country against a rolling parade of tanks and aircraft bombing their land. If you believe that you don’t have that right – then it’s no wonder your country is being taken over by immigrants, knife-weilding yobs, and religious consorts who say that Sharia law is the way to go. You don’t know how to take a stand – at least Georgians in their young democracy do.

– Marilyn, USA, 8/8/2008 21:06

Ah, another American lecturing us. Pray tell, how did Russia invade if their troops had already been in place for 16 years? Is this like…geological style invasion or something? As for your comments on the UK….enjoy the Reconquista, bitch. I hope you like burritos.

The same Russhian tactic: they give Russian passports to some people, and later they are sending the army “to protect them”, and ” to avoid” further killings, or to “assure peace keeping”.

Let face it: this is the Russian method to keep different war conflict zones and to control different areas.

Poor Georgian people, I admire them for their standing. On the other hand if Putin understands to continue under any means the politic of ” Peter the Great”, then he has to assume all consequences.

And that will drag Russia in bad political relations and bad economic situation. The oil and the gas will be finished in the future…. After that what will they sell more ? What they are trying to steal from different small countries like Georgia ? “Creating” Russians communities in order to have what “to protect” ?

It is a dirty game, and is cinic that they are playing this game with the lifes of the Russians they are saying that are protecting…

It is regretable

– Petre, Bucharest, 8/8/2008 22:04

Yeah, remember how those Russians gave out tons of passports to facilitate the invasion of Germany in WWII? Moron.

It’s far to easy to blame the Georgian authorities for this flare up. Yes some of the SO population want to be part of a greater Russia. But a foreign power (Russia) handing out thousands of it’s passports to citizens in a foreign country (Georgia) only then to claim that they are threatening military force to protect their ‘new’ Russian nationals is tantamount to usurping the national government. The anology is simple if pro French Scots, of which there are still a lot, were handed thousands of French passports would that give France the right to invade Scotland to protect it’s newly acquired ‘nationals’. Of course not the UK Government would object and take action to prevent such an invasion.
The case for an independant Scotland via the ballot box however is another matter.

– pat, South of England, 8/8/2008 22:09

Dont ask why it is different, it just is.

And something more:

I quote:

Medvedev warned: ‘I as president of Russia, am obliged to protect the lives and dignity of Russian citizens wherever they are located.

‘We won’t allow the death of our compatriots go unpunished.’

So where are located the next Russiand to be protected…. You all know the list…

– Petre, Bucharest, 8/8/2008 22:17

Dear god, you mean….Russia might invade Moscow next?

You can’t paint every conflict with the same brush, this is nothing like Kosovo. Russia is the aggressor here, Georgia taking back S.O & Abkhazia is no different then we took back the Falklands or Northen Ireland. The problem is Russia dosen’t want Georgia becoming an democratic indepant wealthy nation, hence its step in support of the sepratists since Georgia attempt at NATO memebership in April this year.

Russia dosen’t give a dam about the ‘Russian Citizens’ in S.O, its a message to Western leaning nations (Ukraine and other former USSR States) of whats instore if they don’t follow suit with the Kremlin and a big middle finger to the US/Nato.

– Jay, UK, 8/8/2008 22:48

Russia is still aggressing by not invading. How dare they???

Once the EU military forces are up snd running, if Britian tries to pull out of the Marxist EU State, the British people will come under fire. We need to leave EU now!

– Catherine Walker, South Kensington, London, UK, 8/8/2008 23:40

One tin-foil hat for Ms Walker, please….

Once the EU takeover is complete, the EU armies will fight the British and Irish, so we all need to pull together and all leave EU now! Do not forget that the English, Irish, Scottish, and Welsh are seen as niggling minorities that need to be crushed by EU!

– Patricia O’Rourke, Dublin, Ireland, 8/8/2008 23:49

Make that another, for Ms O’Rourke as well…

Voland of France has hit the nail on the head. International intrigues as ever are behind the scenes . . . . and in our so-called democracies (dumbocracies) all are totally oblivious to the real string pullers. God knows where this will end. All we can be sure of is that the opinionsts of both sides will suffer. And each will blame each other. Man is still a primitive.

– michael, liverpool, 8/8/2008 23:55

Fuckit, make that three….

Who on earth would want to live in Russia it seems they have all got a bit of Stalin in them the way they keep fighting No consideration for human life what ever just keep riding rough shod over anybody what a nation

– Brian Stanier, Stourbridge West Midlands, 9/8/2008 0:24

If only the USSR had an enlightened Georgian ruler, instead of leaders like Stalin…

Where the U.S.A to help the georgian people?

Where the sense of justice from U.S.A?

– Roy Jones, Island, 9/8/2008 3:38

The American military is too busy playing kinky sex games with Iraqi prisoners to help. Sorry.

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I honestly wish I had got around to this earlier. Unfortunately, I have been beaten to the punch, and someone has written the truth behind Obama’s cultlike following – he is the keeper of the Necrocomnicon.

Read more at The Necrobamacon.

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I’m on a snark role today, so I’ve decided to roll on over to The Green Arrow who, despite saying he was shutting down, is still going on strong thanks to such fantastic guest posters as “Sarah Maid of Albion”, “Albion” and “Elizabeth”.

Today’s mindless ranting topic of scholarly and serious discussion is that of how women are being terrorized by the New World Order, and Pakistani rapists. One wonder exactly how that arrangement works out. Do they organize this terrorization via timeshare, sub-contracting or is it more of an informal relationship? Enquiring minds want to know.

Today her sisters are being raped daily, at the same time her young under age sisters in the Pakistani dominated English cities are being groomed for prostitution. There is not a whisper of horror, not even a tortured cry of revulsion. Bodecia would weep openly.

Obviously, Pakistani domination = life of prostitution. Those damn Pakistanis, and their 1.3% of the population. DOMINATING OUR BRITISH CITIES, ALL 747,285 OF THEM (as of the 2001 Census).

Also, one presumes, a life of rape and prostitution under Good Decent White British Folk (and cities dominated by) is apparently not a cause for concern.

Imagine if you will your daughter being stalked in a shopping mall by these unwelcome and unwanted black third world sexual predators. The police are too terrified to arrest these pedophiles for fear of a starting a riot by these third world immigrants from Pakistan.

But remember, the BNP isn’t racist! Hell, it can’t even tell black people from Pakistanis (mainly because all those darkies are alike, amirite?). Now that’s true colour blindness, you racist PC-Brigade do-gooders!

These girls are all victims of a subtle transformation, an ongoing process that is the New World Order; Mr. Brown referred to this New World Order using the more acceptable and less threatening word, ‘Globalization’ In fact he said the word 69 times in a speech he gave at Harvard’s Kennedy Centre.

Please check under your seat for a tinfoil hat. When the signal lights, please place the tinfoil upon your head. If you do not have a tinfoil hat, or require assistance, please contact a steward or stewardess.

The swamping of Europe by sometimes violent third world refugees is an integral part of the plan to expedite this Brave New World and nothing, not even the ‘Ugly Spectre of Nationalism’ in the guise of the BNP will disrupt a plan that has been meticulously planned over many years and is moving forward at an alarming and accelerating pace.

*ping*

Now we may proceed, with caution. If at any time you see a Black Helicoptor, please alert the crew, and take cover.

Any opposition to this New World order will be dealt with robustly. The state militia has instituted a zero tolerance policy, as a group of people found out to their surprise when reading out the names of the dead British soldiers killed in the Iraqi conflict.

Of course, if the New World Order is so strong, how come its getting its arse kicked by orphans with no shoes in Iraq and Afghanistan? That zero tolerance policy must really suck, if its causing the NWO, with all its sekrit conspiratorial power (no doubt gifted to it by the Illuminati/Grey Aliens/Satanists/Reptilian shape-shifting monsters in the 4th dimension) to, you know, not get what it wants.

For the pliable and frightened state militia the indigenous person is the soft target, and easily manipulated and threatened by the racial relations act of 1976, this act was specifically enacted to close down free speech and threaten the populace if they objected to this New Architecture that is the New World order. It does NOT protect its people it subjugates them.

Unlike the BNP, who only have your best interests at heart.

Wait, sorry, what was that Nick Griffin?

“[BNP voters backed] what they perceived to be a strong, disciplined organisation with the ability to back up its slogan ‘Defend Rights for Whites’ with well-directed boots and fists. When the crunch comes, power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate.”

Um, that sounds a little…oppressive, I must say…

I see a frightening similarity between what we refer to as third world countries and our own, with the national broadcaster now infiltrated by rabid socialists, censoring news on governments orders and blatantly accepting funds from an illegal overseas government to broadcast ‘feel good’ EU messages.

Yes, I remember all those rabid socialists, promoting free trade and the war in Iraq.

DAMN YOU SOCIALISTS!

Not to mention our blatantly pro-EU press. I mean, look at the two largest selling papers in the UK, The Sun and The Daily Mail. So pro-EU, its sickening. Paul Dacre and Rebekah Wade are French stooges, pretending to be British. Its the only reasonable explanation.

I see the state police being used as a government militia, and taking advantage of the draconian laws to crack down heavily and brutally on any political dissention, particularly against its own people. This is not the England I remember.

“The darkies now sue the police for cracking down heavily on them. Just not fair, in my book.”

So where are the females, the mothers, the ones that are NOT being exploited and groomed for the sexual delights of the hip hop, cool young black Pakistani males who pimp underage English schoolgirls for aging Pakistani’s? Where are the mothers of these vulnerable young girls when the Pakistani males in their smart suits, bling and BMW’s, are offering gifts and utilizing the art of seduction on their young vulnerable daughters?

As a rule, when you want to use writing to exhort and cajole people into action, its best to not emulate a racist tard with a stupid moustache for your actual content. Just a tip, from one blog writer to another.

I see no march of protest on the television, I hear no raised voices. I am not aware of any petition to the police or government to curb this epidemic.

Like the lioness the mother is the cub’s protector and likewise in a civilized society a mother’s first priority is to fiercely protect her young.

….

There is nothing I could add which would make this seem more ridiculous than it already is. Really.

Oh God, unlike the men, I do hope the spirit of our women has not also been broken.

“Now, where did I put those cheetos…”

And thus goes on another day in the imaginary world of the persecuted BNP member.

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I know its been a long time since I done this feature (it came from back in the day, when I used to troll conspiracy forums with half a dozen textbooks on engineering on my desk) but its time to restart this thing.

According to Greg Hands, the true weak link in the War on Some Terror But Not Others is not a flawed foreign policy, the problems of dealing with sub-state actors while promoting an international based around the sovereignty of the state, blatant hypocrisy or the Free World being led by a man who is widely seem as thick as two short planks….but instead a Left Wing Conspiracy (is there any other sort?) at the Lonely Planet, putting terrible propaganda in their guide books!

I know, I know. You feel your trust has been betrayed. I know when I want to know about the recent political history of a country, I too pick up The Lonely Planet Guide to see what its talented geopolitical commentators say. Their editorial stance and books have been cited by leaders the world over as the way to Win This Thing. And all the time, they were secretly manipulating us. *sob*

the books are almost always written from a Leftist political stance. Wait a moment, readers might ask, how can a description of which bus route goes to Tutankhamun’s tomb have any kind of political bias? Check out the “history” section of these books, however, and you will see what I mean. Liberal, “progressive” forces are invariably good, battling with the forces of conservatism, all around the world.


History and reality are supposed to have a well known liberal-left bias. So I’ve been told, anyway, by my secret masters within the Liberal Conspiracy. No, the other one, not that site run by Sunny Hundal.

As expected, this is particularly true of guides to the USA and to the UK. Margaret Thatcher and George Bush are vilified. Clem Attlee, Franklin D Roosevelt and JFK are idolised.

Of course, George W Bush and Magaret Thatcher are the poster-children for compassionate conservatism. The only possible reason someone could disagree with their claims to greatness is because they are a bitter liberal. All those unemployed people and dead bodies and stuff are mere coincidence and as any good empiricist knows, correlation does not equal causation. On the other hand, those people widely seen, across the political spectrum, as statesmen due to their fairly good leadership in times of crisis are liberal stooges.

The brand new Lonely Planet guide to the USA (5th ed, 2008) tells us that “Roosevelt did much to ameliorate the pain of the Great Depression”, there is praise for Clinton whose attempts to create socialised healthcare were scuppered by the Republicans, who were then out to get him over Monica Lewinsky, etc. But the real monstering is reserved for George W Bush, who “attacked Afghanistan in an unsuccessful hunt for Al-Qaeda terrorists”, he “undid environmental regulations” and “fostered a moral, religious and cultural crusade, espousing ‘family values'”. The chapter introducing California suggests that Arnold Schwarzenegger’s only successes were as a result of him distancing himself from Bush, and on it goes.

Shorter Greg Hands: We’re now in Bizarro World! Everything is reversed, and I am now right.

Some readers of this blog might even ask, it’s so well-known, why even bother to write about it? Well, the new Lonely Planet Egypt guide (9th ed, 2008) simply cannot go without comment. The book is an apology for radical Islamism and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Ah yes. This must be part of that neverending struggle in The Lonely Planet to potray Liberal organizations such as the Muslim Brotherhood, as good guys, and conservative forces as the bad guys. Right? Because the Muslim Brotherhood are all fluffy kittens and free abortions and gay love and stuff.

Any objective view of the Brotherhood is this – it is a jihadist group, whose credo is “Mastering the world with Islam” and “building the khalifa”.

Uh-oh. Doesn’t this kind of conflict with this statement “Check out the “history” section of these books, however, and you will see what I mean. Liberal, “progressive” forces are invariably good, battling with the forces of conservatism, all around the world”?

You know, Greg, if you want to make your point, its generally best to not quote a part of a book which completely fails to make your point at all, and in fact undermines it. You know, as a general rule. We do things differently here, in reality.

We are told (p. 44) that “despite their use of religion, Egypt’s Islamist groups are part of a political response to harsh socio-economic conditions”. They have suffered under “a repressive political system that allowed little chance to voice legitimate opposition” and have been “denied recognition by the state as a legal political entity”.

“Context is part of the liberal conspiracy.”

One can’t help feeling that the writers at Lonely Planet desperately want themselves to believe that radical Islamists are a manifestation of protest against economic conditions, and are trying to re-arrange the facts accordingly. Perhaps the Brothers really are sitting around in Che Guevara T-shirts, debating the Marxist dialectic, driven by a desire to alleviate poverty, just like the Taliban were in Afghanistan?

“Poverty, poor education and lack of legitimate opposition have never spawned extremist religious organizations. Ever. Not once at all in history. People who say otherwise are part of Liberal-Left Conspiracy. Also, now, liberal-left means Communist.”

Why should we care? Two reasons. First, these books sell well, and the market is predominantly young, well-educated people, gap-year teens, students and former students, whose minds are open enough in the first place to embark on a journey to somewhere like Egypt. Probably exactly the sort of people we don’t want to be telling that the Muslim Brotherhood are the good guys.

I love Greg’s dichomtomous worldview, where telling people the origins of an organizations key support is SECRETLY HOPING FOR THE OVERTHROW OF THE INFIDEL MURBARAK’S TYRANNY, ALLAHU-AKBAR! Oops, sorry, forgot myself there for a moment. Greg clearly thinks people are too stupid to realize a highly socially conservative religious movement in the Middle East with links to terrorist organizations might just be as bad as a regime that practices routine torture and denial of human rights, despite how their opposition is rooted in economic and political concerns of the nation in question.

Because, you know, pointing out the roots of support for the Egyptian Brotherhood may have some sort of legitimate basis is EXACTLY THE SAME THING as supporting the Jihadists and wanting to establish an Islamic Cailphate. Obviously.

Second, and this never ceases to amaze me, we, the British taxpayer, own Lonely Planet. The BBC bought it in 2007.

We should be asking the BBC why they are promoting Islamism, and in the meantime perhaps we should persuade Fox News to buy Rough Guides, re-balance the editorial line and give travellers a real choice?

Ah yes, the BBC. Main cog in the international liberal-left conspiracy. Once again betraying this great nation by promoting Islam, the eating of aborted fetuses, multiculturalism, marrying men with dogs and other perversions. Only Rupert Murdoch, who would never cosy up to illiberal regimes for the sake of sales, can restore the balance.

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I know I really should leave such things to Anton Vowl, as he is so much better at them. But I was trolling around the Daily Mail messageboard on a slow Friday afternoon when I saw the topic title….

are atheists infiltrating organizations such as education, government etc?

and I just knew it was going to be a clusterfuck of epic tinfoil hattery and right-wing paranoia. I was not disappointed.

In the thread about the dreaded Heinz Mayo “gay” ad, one respondent stated that atheists are infiltrating organisations that influence government, educational policy, etc.

Can atheists really do that? After all, they are not an organised as such. Is the real truth merely that more people are rejecting religion and becoming de-facto atheists, such that the proportion of atheists in all sorts of organisations is increasing because of that, i.e. it’s mere statistics?

Is it really a conspiracy?

A sensible start….surely this cannot last. Atheism debates are like those on abortion…pure flamebait.

YES Mikey my man, oh yes!! Read Peter Hitchins, an ex-communist..

The communist party used to say…go out and submerse Into the establishment, government, schools, authorities…I’m not quoting but find out Mikey. Look at government… the number of ex-communist party members and ex-marxist types…

YES, THE COMMUNIST CONSPIRACY IS BACK IN FASHION! POST #1 BITCHES, AND WE’RE ALREADY BACK TO THE 1950S, BOO-YAH!

Just look at the members in the NUT to find out how far these people have infiltrated education and the ‘elf and safety brigade in local councils are teeming with them. Even the higher ranks of the police have them in abundance.

Reminder: if lots of educated people agree, its not because of superb reasoning skills and access to more factual information, its because they are being manipulated by a conspiracy.

I haven’t read anything this funny in a long time! “These people” indeed. Atheists were around long before anyone caught religion, and do you know what? We’re not communists, marxists or fascists, we’re just people who lead ordinary decent lives without believing in any gods – and you sound so horrified, as if we’re trying to undermine society!

Atheist disinformation agents have even infiltrated the Daily Mail!

i think you are right. you only have to look at Great Britain with high teenage pregnancies, broken homes, political correctness and not being allowed to make judgements about peoples’ lifestyles. There are people being shot dead for being in the wrong place.

I think having christian values did keep people on the right track.

Goddamn those fucking Atheists and their lack of morals making it unacceptable for me to persecute teh gheys. I see no unintentional irony in my previous statement whatsoever, either.

The people that have infiltrated our society have no religious preferences. They probably call themselves atheists but their religion is Marxism. They don’t worship a deity, just an idea that is a proven failure. I suppose that’s the difference: nobody has ever proven that God does not exist whereas Marxism has been tried and has failed miserably.

But that won’t stop those who are hungry for power over the proletariat. Antyjax is obviously familiar with the type, and there are thousands of them, in education, local government and the criminal justice system. It isn’t an organised conspiracy, but each of them are following the teachings of Gramsci and the Frankfurt School.

I’m sure that sounded really smart in his head.

Atheists tend to have the evangelical zeal of all religious zealots. They are so arrogant in their personal beliefs and self esteem, that they will not brook alternative belief systems!

All the PC claptrap, about renaming Christmas and the like, are all down to Atheists in Local Government.

What makes their actions all the more disgusting are their attempts at blaming Muslims, or Hindus, etc.. These unfortunates find themselves beset by Press Commentators, blaming them for something for which they have no knowledge, or inclination! To the contrary. They mostly enjoy the family aspects of our CHRISTIAN celebrations!

(The Muslims also hold Christ in high esteem and see no reason why they should not celebrate Christmas alongside Christians!……… Go to Saudi Arabia and you will find that out in short order!)

Yeah, goddamn Atheists and their Winterval! Religious nutters of the world, UNITE and let us be rid of this menace.

The point of the Bible, and Christianity is to promote harmony and a moral life. The 10 Commandments are good rules for morality, and which every decent human being will follow naturally. As our community has gone away from the church and the fear of what comes next (heaven, hell?), we are heading for barbarism. This is already clear by what is happening in every inner-city and now suburban streets with young men and woman being killed in cold blood for little or no reason. All religions have their own version of the 10 Commandments which again are moral pointers for the followers.

To go to the original question, Jax has answered it pretty well in my opinion. So yes I do really believe that atheists have infiltrated government at every level, hence it will reach the education system. Private church schools, I suspect, are an exception.

Britain was harmonious back when peasants believed the King ruled by the divine grace of God, and I approve of this system. Speaking as an agnostic.

I am more alarmed that teachers are using their jobs to poison the minds of our young children with their left wing convictions. It isn’t as if the teaching profession can be proud of their acheivements as so many children leave school without the ability to read or write properly. Universities are having to train youngsters the basics before they can persue the courses at Uni.

As for the police they have alienated the majority of the law abiding population with their policy of appeasing criminals and taking ot out on the rest of us.

Because ignorance and irrational brutality are hallmarks of all Atheist thought.

I cannot see God but I can have faith In God’s existence. Science may someday come to a proof of the truth or falsehood of a creator, but It Is In no position today to do either. If you say..”I see no evidence that there Is a God” fair enough. But go as far as saying..”I know there Is no God” and you have taken a leap of faith as large as that of any theist.

Although theists are better, because they are right. Or something.

I’m a Christian and I believe In God. It’s really quite easy, I believe there Is one God. He actually Loves you, and you try to mock and sneer, and yet he still Loves you. But I don’t actually have to explain my BELIEF to you, rather you have to explain your ASSERTION that there Is no God?? And you have to do a lot better than “I know there are no God’s because there Is no evidence.” You have a BELIEF that there Is no God, and that Is fine. But you don’t KNOW. So for all your assertions, you’re not being very assertive are you?

Because asserting an unknowable without evidence is an excellent system of logical thinking.

I believe the heading of this post is misleading and would be less so if it read “are the extreme left infiltrating organisations such as education ,government,etc.
the answer is yes they are and always have done just because tony blair denied them the right to stand as labour candidates doesn’t mean they have gone away or changed their beliefs they are still out there burrowing away into all aspects of our lives,and i don’t believe it will be long before they rear their heads again and feel safe to come out into the open again.

They are in all probability atheists,but that is not the b all and end all of their beliefs but may be the basis for them.
The question is ,are they a danger to our society must be an undoubtable yes,but is far more outreaching than just are they atheist !
Many atheists are content in their non belief,and content to let the rest of us believe what ever we want.

The extreme left are not .

Atheists are a front for the Communists! COMMUNISTS!!12!

I find it unbelieveably funny how non believers get so upset about something they don’t believe in

ok, you don’t believe in God. thats your choice. but why do you get so angry and upset with those of us who do believe in God? I find that it is especially the Christian faith which gets such anger etc directed towards it

I do not for one second believe in the hindu religion. However I don’t get all worked up and angry about it. Let them believe what they do.

atheisem is a belief aswell btw


Well, last time I checked, it wasn’t Hindus who had a majority in this country. But of course that couldn’t be the reason, could it?

On numerous occasions, I have had an atheist say to me something along the lines of

“we don’t know what caused the universe”

yet they will boldly claim that there is no evidence of God. If God caused / created the universe then it stands to reason that the universe (in fact all of creation) is evidence of God. Are you able to prove that God did not cause / create the universe?

Incidentally, to answer your question about why I believe in God, there are two reasons.

1. I believe what is said in the Bible about Him. The central theme is that before God, all have sinned and the punishment for that sin is death. God loved the world so much that He sent His Son Jesus Christ to die on the cross so that people can be forgiven of their sins. Only in Christianity can I find this redemptive message where salvation is based on what Jesus Christ has done, not on some works-based method present in all other religions.

2. Since becoming a Christian, I have the testimony in my life as to answered prayer, or how God helped me through a difficult situation. The personal evidence for my faith is therefore my testimony. Now others can choose what alternative explanation they give to what I attribute to God at work, but description of something doesn’t alter what it is. It only affects one’s perception of it.


Logic is really wasted on some people.

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True story.

Icke’s own webpage says:

I want to make it clear one more time because a few people have still got the wrong impression. I have not put my name forward in the upcoming by-election because I want to win and nor do I have any chance of winning. I will get a few votes at most in the time we have. Personally I am not in the least bothered if I get zero.

It is not about that. It is about taking an opportunity in a by-election called by the sitting MP on the subject of ‘Big Brother’ to make the point that this is far, far bigger than even he realises and unless we see the BIG picture of what is going on nothing effective can be done to stop it.

We can sit on our bums and moan, or we can do what we don’t want to do (as with me in this case) to communicate what people need to know as effectively as we can.

best wishes,

David


I for one welcome our reptilian overlords.

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You know how there was those Japanese soldiers who retreated into the rainforest in 1944-5, hiding for years, eating raw birds and hunting American troops, thinking WWII was still going on? Or those people who claim Hitler really won WWII, because he ran away to a giant Antarctic base, is now the Chosen One of the Dero who live inside the hollow earth and will soon emerge at the head of a Flying Saucer Army to establish a worldwide 4th Reich?

This is the current state of Hillary’s online supporters, basically.

For example, let us consider the hilarious No Quarter USA blog. Here is a perfect example of the sort of thing outspoken and well known Hillary supporters (this man has advised Clinton on national security and defence policy) have been saying:

The recording that shows Michelle Obama saying disparaging things about white folks is for real. It is not part of some elaborate dirty trick. The people who have seen her comments describe it as “stunning” or “devastating.” I have not spoken directly with the people who have seen the tape, but I have spoken to two of my friends who are friends with those who watched the tape/dvd.

….

Why does this “tape” of Michelle Obama matter? The folks who have it are working to elect John McCain. They are using it now to raise money for a 527 effort that will attack Barack Obama. I am told that they fully intend to keep this “off-the-market” until after the Democratic Convention. The Republicans involved with this believe that Barack Obama is a more beatable candidate than Hillary Clinton and see the tape as reinforcing an image of racial division that will hurt Obama.

I support Hillary Clinton for President. I believe she will be a stronger candidate. And if I had the tape I would put it out in a heartbeat. Getting the tape out now does one of two things–either it persuades Super Delegates that Barack is not electable or it gives the Obama campaign time to repair the damage.

I now appreciate somewhat how Cofer Black, the head of the CIA’s Counter Terrorism Center, must have felt as he tried to warn Condaleeza Rice and the Bush White House about a brewing terrorist attack in the days leading up to September 11th. And please, I am not equating the Michelle tape with the attacks of 9-11. Rather I am focused on the point of what happens when someone has incomplete information, which warns about a future event, and tries to raise the alert. Just because Cofer Black could not say in late July 2001 that the coming attack would be carried out by 19 hijackers on four commercial airliners did not mean his intelligence was wrong.

Those who want to vilify me for having the audacity to raise this warning can have at it. I ran up against similar attacks and skeptics in May of 2003 when I warned that the Bush Administration had cooked the intelligence on Iraq. It is only now that we get a Senate Intelligence Committee Report and a book from Scott McClellan confirming what I said five years ago.

ONLY HILLARY CAN STOP A POLITICAL 9/11 FROM BURYING THE DEMOCRATS FOREVER! OBAMA = POLITICAL TERRORISM!

The comments are even more amazing. Obama and his wife are apparently white-hating Bushies in waiting who use thug tactics, like having supporters make fun of the No Quarter people in lieu of serious debate. And he’s an elitist, too!

Of course, I realize I’m going to look REALLY stupid if there is a video, but I somehow doubt it really exists. This conspiracy theory is the last thing the Clintonista have to hold onto, a perfect representation of their fantasy that Clinton is more electable. Clinton stepping down has just made her most ardent supporters go totally off the wire, engaging in the most destructive of dirty politics.

And the most amazing thing, the one that really surprises me, is that if you were to compare the treatment of Obama’s wife to any other significant other of a politician in recent history, it would be….Hillary Clinton, who was constantly harassed and the target of near-libellous conspiracy theories and stories by the right and significant sectors of the media throughout the 90s. Amazing.

Thanks to Sadly, No! for the link.

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